“Fella meam mentulam.”

me (10:13:54 AM): i mean, i always thought-
me (10:14:01 AM): you know, simba just got kind of, uh, lucky.
me (10:14:12 AM): obviously scar experienced a horrible drought during his reign.
me (10:14:21 AM): which just so happened to end when simba came to power. due to currents in a far away ocean, undoubtedly.
red-pulp (10:14:56 AM): i assumed there was also some overhunting going on.
me (10:14:59 PM): but that doesn’t make the land turn into a dried up piece of shit.
red-pulp (10:15:30 PM): scar is like lenin, in that he leads a small class, lower than the working class (lions), against the status quo, and that the pridelands went fallow ‘n shit like in the holodomor.
red-pulp (10:15:45 PM): and if you recall, the issue wasn’t even whether or not i was right about this, because my argument here is shallow.
red-pulp (10:15:56 PM): i was more against your idea that the hyenas are of a separate nation!
me (10:16:20 PM): they’re a separate nation due to a direct quote. which i feel i need not remind you of.
red-pulp (10:16:48 PM): look, okay, so we’re going to go by “what the light touches”?
red-pulp (10:16:57 PM): clearly mufasa had authority in the elephant graveyard.
red-pulp (10:17:01 PM): and not just brawn authority.
red-pulp (10:17:05 PM): he had some political shit.
me (10:17:08 PM): it wasn’t legitimate.
me (10:17:19 PM): he was out there because his son was gone.
me (10:17:32 PM): and, i mean. well, it’s a gray area.
neil (10:17:46 PM): is that an elephant joke?
me (10:17:49 PM): i would say he was not only angry because simba was in trouble, but because he was forced into a difficult spot as king.
me (10:18:06 PM): he had no jurisdiction there.
red-pulp (10:18:08 PM): why, you think there was a political issue with him entering the elephant graveyard?
me (10:18:10 PM): it isn’t his realm.
red-pulp (10:18:11 PM): that’s bullshit.
red-pulp (10:18:15 PM): BULLSHIT.
me (10:18:34 PM): i mean, they get specific. i believe with, “do you know what we do to kings who leave their lands?”
neil (10:19:13 PM): textual strike!
neil (10:19:25 PM): well played.
me (10:20:43 PM): “we’re way beyond the boundary of the pridelands”
red-pulp (10:21:05 PM): so why does mufasa have clear political authority?!
neil (10:21:19 PM): divine right? it’s a monarchy.
me (10:21:21 PM): you’re the one arguing that.
me (10:21:32 PM): i’m saying he has no authority in the hyena land.
red-pulp (10:21:36 PM): he totally does!
me (10:21:43 PM): “we are on their land,” says zazu.
red-pulp (10:21:58 PM): okay, so where does scar derive his power then, if not from divine right?
red-pulp (10:22:04 PM): it sure ain’t brawn. he ain’t no warlord.
me (10:22:06 PM): he has a legitimate claim to the throne.
me (10:22:12 PM): he got rid of simba and mufasa, he’s the next in line.
red-pulp (10:22:24 PM): good point.
red-pulp (10:22:32 PM): until the little hairball was born.
neil (10:23:17 PM): even with Simba, Scar is ruler until he reaches the age of majority.
me (10:23:09 PM): asking my sister about this, she said, “well scar revolted, right?”
me (10:23:39 PM): and i’m like, “no! he wormed his way to the throne and then accepted the reins of a dictatorship with a tiberian show of reluctance!”
red-pulp (10:24:13 PM): i think the issue here is that neither of us have touched on a decent historical example.
me (10:24:52 PM): i wanted to pull in, like, political rulers who aided the nazis in wwii. and became heads of puppet governments.
me (10:24:55 PM): but, obviously in these cases, the hyenas, the nazis, were the ones really in control.
me (10:25:09 PM): not scar.
red-pulp (10:25:19 PM): the hyenas are helpless without scar. they have no political organization.
red-pulp (10:25:33 PM): no real solidarity.
me (10:25:26 PM): it’s also almost implied that they can’t hunt.
red-pulp (10:25:39 PM): i wouldn’t compare them to nazis.
red-pulp (10:25:48 PM): although the film wants us to do so, obviously.
me (10:26:02 PM): yeah. i mean, what i was looking for was a traitor who brings in a foreign power to secure power.
me (10:26:13 PM): that was about as far as the example worked.
neil (10:26:17 PM): I still contend the hyenas are best looked at as mercenaries.
red-pulp (10:26:47 PM): maybe we should just focus our energies together in coming up with a real parallel?
red-pulp (10:26:59 PM): because we can’t get around the fact that we’re both wrong.
neil (10:27:01 PM): brb

Is it, Rave.

Is it.

Get crunk on my mom’s desert wine and watch Gladiator.